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Date the printng pattern changed

Submitted by sharpe on Fri, 06/12/2009 - 14:09

I was wondering when the printing pattern changed so that we can compare our data with the data in the experimental archive. Is there a way to tell? I believed there are now 4 patterns: Old, new, circular, and the spray pyrolysis one (sorry, it minimizes the number of required passes required to generate the slides). We will always include a key with the spray pyrolysis generated film data and the circular ones from the HP printer are easy to identify. How do I know which is the "old" vs "new" printing pattern? Thanks

template

Submitted by jennyschuttle on Wed, 06/17/2009 - 09:39.

The new template was developed due to the change in printers. We can no longer use the old template since we don't have a print driver hack. So in order to use the HP D5460 printer we had to create a template that had a hole in the middle where the printer doesn't print. That is the one that is available for download on the website now. I was aware of the last one used for the Epson printer and the one we created for this printer ...as well as the one you are using, but I was not aware of a circular one? Is that the new one you are referring to? Thanks!

Sorry, poor description, the

Submitted by sharpe on Wed, 06/17/2009 - 13:09.

Sorry, poor description, the "circular" one I was refering to is your new one, the one for the HP D5460 which prints in a circle around the hole in the middle. There are two older ones, the one we used for the Epson last summer and then the older one described in the Chem. Mater. 2005, 17, 4318. paper. There are images for both on this site. I am just not sure what the official change over date was or in general how to tell which corner corresponds to which metal when we are looking at images in the database. Thanks
Lee

template

Submitted by jennyschuttle on Fri, 06/19/2009 - 10:09.

Lee-
Now that you mention it, I did realize there were four templates, but hadn't really thought in detail about those consequences in terms of looking at images in the database. I have to agree that it is now starting to get confusing. I think that the easiest way would be to upload a template with each picture telling the position of the metals, the wavelength and bias that the scan was done at. I could also post all of the templates on the website (including yours) to let people download which one they want to use as along as they agreed to post what metals are where. What do you think?

As for when the changed occurred - I am not really sure. I think the previous Epson template only worked for a few images (including the ones from your group)from last summer. Maybe we could go in and edit those images to say that those were the Epson template. All the ones before that I think were the template that was shown in Chem. Mater. The "new circular" image will be easy to tell, and this might change again if we can get some support from HP, but we can always post a template of where the metals are for that as well.

Thanks for bringing this up...these are great things to get figured out now!
Jenny

template example

Submitted by Cheung Grinnell on Wed, 07/08/2009 - 10:04.

Having a template accompanying each scan would be really nice. Humescla and I have been uploading our experiments with a template attached to each pos bias scan by modifying the pos scan image through the Paint application.

Order of Metals

Submitted by Cheung Grinnell on Wed, 06/17/2009 - 11:03.

We were wondering how to identify which metal is which when the order of the metals is not specified. The metals show up in alphabetical order instead of a,b,c,d. Is there a way to tell from titles such as 158 AB? Maybe we could solve this problem by putting the order of metals in the title of the experiment (i.e. CuFeAlCo would correspond respectively to ABCD) and/or uploading a template key with the metals identified in each corner of the triangle system (see our new image post labeled metal location).

order of metals

Submitted by jennyschuttle on Thu, 07/23/2009 - 14:26.

I think the template key that your group has been uploading with your images is VERY helpful. We will encourage all groups to do the same in the future. As for what is in the database currently, we would have to go back and look at the data with a notebook to see if we could figure it out for some cases. Others might be obvious - if there is one in particular that you would like to know about let me know and I will see what I can find out.
Good luck!